The use of prophecy and fated destinies is pretty intrinsic in epic fantasy. The tradition of prophecy as a plot device in western storytelling goes back at least to the Greek epics, if not farther, and although different authors have different approaches, the theme of characters having a glimpse of the future and choosing if and how to be motivated by it runs through many of today’s great fantasy tales. But the idea of time and existence as a turning wheel adds a specific flavor to Jordan’s universe, and it’s one I’m very interested to see play out.
Welcome back to week four of Reading The Wheel of Time! I’d like to do something a little different this week; I won’t be covering any new chapters, instead I’d like to look at the dreams Rand has had so far, as well as exploring what we know of the prophecy of the Dragon Reborn and going back to look at the Prologue, which I haven’t actually covered yet. I’ll be making some observations about how prophecy plays a role in epic fantasy as well as seeing what I can predict about dreams and visions and how they may affect our heroes’ futures.
The Eye of the World opens with a bang in the Prologue. We find ourselves in what was once a beautiful palace, but one that has recently been wracked by some catastrophe. Beautiful friezes and walls have been destroyed, the floor heaves at times as though it has become a liquid, and all the inhabitants are dead, their bodies marred and mangled by some horrific force. Amidst this horror we find a man, Lews Therin Telamon, who seems unaware of the devastation around him, not even to noticing the mangled bodies beneath his feet as he searches the halls and calls for his wife, Ilyena.
Suddenly another man appears, dressed in black, who is surprised when Lews Therin does not recognize him. He mocks Lews Therin, calling on him to come back to himself, to remember, and when Lews Therin cannot, or perhaps chooses not to, the newcomer uses a power to heal the man. This causes Lews Therin great pain, but when it is over he recognizes what has happened to the palace and sees the body of his wife among the dead. Horrified and enraged, he tells the black-clad man, Elan Morin, sometimes called the Betrayer of Hope, that Lews will destroy him for what he has done, but Elan Morin tells him to remember what truly happened. It was not Elan Morin who killed everyone in the palace but Lews Therin himself, who was driven mad by the “counterstroke” of the “Great Lord of the Dark.” Elan Morin tells Lews Therin that all his companions are just as mad and are currently unleashing the same devastation on the world, that every day hundreds of other men are joining them in insanity and destruction.
Lews sees the truth then, recognizing that he himself cut down his family, even his own children, and he uses the True Source to Travel away, finding himself on a flat plain by a river, and as he screams to the Light for forgiveness, he draws power down into himself until it consumes him, striking down into the earth like lightning and creating a mountain island in the middle of the river. The black-clad man stands looking at the mountain that Lews Therin created as he died, and remarks that the Dragon cannot escape so easily, and that in fact he never can, until the end of Time.
Upon first reading the Prologue I didn’t have much of a response beyond, oh wow that was cool, I wonder what it all means! But now, having read up through Chapter 17 and learned a little more about the Power that weaves this world, I feel able to have a more nuanced perspective.
There is something epic about the Prologue, almost as though you were hearing Thom the gleeman telling you the tale. It is our first introduction to the idea of the One Power, and to the idea that there is a male half and female half. After week two’s observations on yin and yang, I notice that Lews Therin is wearing a symbol on his cloak—“a circle half white and half black, the colors separated by a sinuous line”—and that certainly sounds like a symbol for the two sides of magic working in tandem to me.
Also, when Lews Therin is touching the power before he kills himself, he is aware of the taint of “the Shadow’s counterstroke” and that said taint has “doomed the world.” Thus we get a bit of set-up for the world in which Rand Al’Thor (who is pretty definitely the reincarnated Lews Therin) lives. We also are also set up to understand that reincarnation exists in this world and that people are aware that time is a wheel that is constantly turning. The black-clad man tells Lews Therin that they “have fought a thousand battles with the turning of the Wheel, a thousand times a thousand,” and will “fight until Time dies….”
While we don’t know (at least not yet) how long each full turn of the Wheel is, there is a sense here that certain concepts of prophecy, like the idea of reincarnation, are built into this system. The struggle between the Dragon and the Betrayer seems to be cyclical, the turn of the Wheel bringing about the same battles in new forms. But this moment is different, perhaps, because it feels as if the attack upon the Dark Lord is unprecedented, and that the taint on saidin and the resulting damage are going to change the game, as it were. The Breaking of the World seems to be a one time event in all the history of the World and its ages.
So how does prophecy fit into all this? It is known that the Dragon will always eventually be reincarnated, so prophecies around when and where that will happen make sense. The prophecy that Thom relays to Rand before they arrive in Baerlon seems to suggest that people reply on prophecy to figure out if the Dragon is back yet, and what we know of Moiraine’s interest in the three boys (remember, she asks Nynaeve if any of them were born outside the Two Rivers) suggests that she is using a prophecy to guide her in looking for the Dragon Reborn.
Prophecy in epic fantasy is often used as a plot device to spur characters into action. Looking for the Dragon is what brings Moiraine and Lan to the Two Rivers, allowing our story to coalesce and the journey to begin. In Star Wars (an epic fantasy in space) the Jedi prophecy of the Chosen One is the driving force that leads to Anakin being trained as a Jedi despite the usual rules dictating that the boy is too old to begin such training. It is the factor that leads Qui-Gon to take Anakin from slavery in the first place–to take him, but not his mother, a decision that contributed greatly to Anakin’s fall. All in all, the Jedi lean upon this prophecy in one way or another throughout the Star Wars prequels, and can often be blinded to what is right in front of them because they’re too busy trying to make things fit as they believe the prophecy dictates. And even once Anakin destroys the Jedi Order, it can be debated whether or not he still is acting as the Chosen One, depending on how you choose to interpret what a “balance” to the Force truly means.
Prophecy in Star Wars comes from the driving power of creation in much the same way that it comes from the True Source, also the driving force of creation, in The Wheel of Time. In this way, the idea of what magic (for lack of a better catch-all term) is differs from, say, the Harry Potter novels, in which magic is an abstract mysterious force that exists outside of the realms of science and the “real” world. In Jordan’s universe, the “magic” used is real, concrete, less easily understood than the physical building blocks of the world but no less a part. Therefore, prophecy can be viewed merely as reading the Pattern, the way one might follow the trail of deer in the forest or tell that a storm is coming by looking at the clouds.

Min seems to have just such a gift. According to Moiraine, she can see parts of the Pattern, although she doesn’t always have the skill (or perhaps the training?) to interpret what she sees. The items she lists seeing around Perrin, for example, (a wolf, a broken crown, and flowering trees) and around Mat (a red eagle, an eye on a scale, a dagger with a ruby, a horn, and a laughing face) could be literal items, but they could also be symbols of something. Around Rand she sees many things, including lightning which is both striking at him, and coming out of him, which to me certainly seems evocative of the lightning that Lews Therin created when he channeled too much power and killed himself, creating Dragonmount. It makes me wonder if she has told Moiraine anything about what she sees around the companions, and if such clues might be useful to the Aes Sedai.
But of course, no one is telling Moiraine anything if they can help it. Rand, Mat, and Perrin all have the instinct not to confide in her about their dream, a choice that Thom deems wise, at least for now. Their suspicion of Aes Sedai in general seems to override their knowledge that Moiraine is probably the only person who might have a chance of making sense of what the dream meant and how it could be possible that Ba’alzamon could reach them in such a manner.
In an Entertainment Weekly interview in 2015, George R.R. Martin talked about the difficulty of prophecy in fantasy. He addressed the idea that it is a “staple element” in fantasy but also that you want to be “unpredictable” about it, and gives the example of the prophecy of Birnam Wood coming to the walls of Dunsinane Castle in Shakepseare’s Macbeth; Macbeth doesn’t see how it’s possible for the forest to suddenly come up to the castle and so thinks he is safe, but as it turns out, the prophecy didn’t literally mean the trees were going to move but rather referred to Malcolm and his soldiers using the branches for camouflage. Min talks about seeing “a sword that isn’t a sword” around Rand, for example, probably alluding to the Sword That Cannot Be Touched from the prophecy about the coming of the Dragon, although neither she or Rand makes that connection.
And that is the tricky thing about prophecy; it is often obscure and difficult to read. Different characters in fantasy epics make different choices about whether or not they will consider prophecies and allow them to dictate their actions, but it is usually clear that choosing your actions based to what you believe a prophecy means can be very dangerous.
Take Voldemort from Harry Potter, for example. When the prophecy is made that a child will be born that can defeat him, Voldemort is spurred into action to stop the prophecy from coming true. There are two children who fit the description of the child in the prophecy, but Voldemort decides to target Harry Potter. By attempting to kill Harry, Voldemort actually sets the prophecy in motion, giving Harry the tools to defeat him, including the protective magic Lily created when she sacrificed herself for her son as well as Harry’s connection to Voldemort’s mind. In this world not all prophecies come true (Trelawney basically only gets one prophecy “correct” out of a lifetime of making them) and so Voldemort’s choice to believe and act upon the prophecy was the catalyst that set it in motion in the first place.
It is unclear if prophecies in the world of The Wheel of Time are similarly fallible. In Susan Cooper’s The Dark is Rising Sequence, prophecies are riddles that can be used as tools to guide her heroes on their journey. Much of the prophecy in Lord of the Rings follows a similar pattern; the prophecy that one of Isildur’s heirs would take the paths of the Dead and call them to fulfill their oath was little more than a reminder to Aragorn that the option was open to him, for example. I suspect a similar pattern going forward in The Eye of the World, however, the connection to the literal pattern of time increases the fated aspect connected to prophecy.
I am also curious to see how dreams connect to this idea of prophecy and “seeing the Pattern.” It is unclear so far if Perrin or Mat have any connection to saidin the way Rand does, so I can’t yet make a call if these dreams are connected in some way to that ability. Ba’alzamon doesn’t know if Rand is “the one” aka the Dragon Reborn; the reader assumes that he’s operating along basically the same criteria as Moiraine, following a prophecy that says where the Dragon will live and how old he should be. It is therefore suggested that it is his power reaching out to Rand, and not some inherent connection. But dreams can also be prophetic, and it may be that Rand and his friends are seeing more than just a message that has been sent out to them.
So the question remains of how “real” this dream is, and if there is anything useful that Rand can take from it as a tool for the future. I suspect Moiraine could shed light on a lot of what Ba’alzamon said and did, but it’s too early to know if the threat the Dark One made—that Moiraine would kill him if she knew of the dream—is true. Thom seemed to disagree with the idea that the false dragons were “used” by the Aes Sedai; one suspects that the Dark’s idea of sacrifice in the name of the Light would be different than those who chose to serve it.
The rat thing is still super creepy though.
Next week we get back on track with new chapters (18-20) and the group will get back on track with being chased by a lot of shadowy bad guys. We’ll be talking about the breaking of fellowships, the danger of treasure-hunting, and how I listened to Howard Shore’s score for the Mines of Moria bit in Fellowship of the Ring while I was writing up my thoughts on Shadar Logoth.
Kelsey Jefferson Barrett lives and works in Brooklyn, and totally had a dream inspired by Rand’s last night. Brr.
For someone who has only read 17 chapters, that was a surprisingly good analysis of how prophecy works in Randland. I won’t say you were right so much as on the right path. But you have a great basic grasp of how this world functions, I didn’t have that good a grasp on it until after the third book finished.
As well I was a bit disappointed that we weren’t going to cover any new ground with this installment. But after reading I think this has been your best article yet on this series. Can’t wait to read your next article.
Dreams in WoT are pretty cool, but are quite dangerous.
Just wait until you hear some of the Seanchan prophecies and omens. They are wild.
I love the way RJ have fun with twisting some concepts on its head, an example is “the Sword in the Stone” legend.
And, also the way he puts in some inside jokes that you may not see at first.
If you for example would happen to google “Tar Valon map” you should have in mind that that is the City Island where female magic wielders are in charge and call all the shots.
*Ducking for safety*
Excellent analysis! Very astute and thoughtful for your first read-through, though of course with both hits and misses I won’t spoil.
One thing I will point out though, speaking of Tar Valon (@3, heh), is that Dragonmount is not on the island, but it is near the island. The Prologue states that the island was not there prior to Lews Therin’s self-destruction, but that the upheaval of the earth caused the river to change course and create the island. You can see this if you look at the map in your book.
To be honest, the first time I read tEotW, I did not like the prologue at all. It seemed so long and confusing, I had no idea what was going on or what it was supposed to mean, and it almost threw me off from the whole book (in my defence, I was still in high school and I don’t believe I had much experience with prologues back then). Luckily, I continued on to the first chapter and fell head over heels in love with the book. The next time I read the prologue, knowing what was going on, I loved it.
Regarding prophesies, I really love the way some of them are fulfilled in this series.
Tomas @3, “the Sword in the Stone”. Haha, yes. I don’t think I did catch this one before.
excellent and interesting analysis. You’ll see how close you are to the mark as time goes on.
The Prologue offered teenage-me so little promise of lasting interest that I stopped reading after it and didn’t try again until about two years later. The earliest chapters didn’t engage me much, but I plodded through until the Trollocs showed up. Then I was hooked.
I cannot for the life of me remember where the quote comes from, but I distinctly remember the line, “Prophecy is not meant to guide your actions, but to let you know when something significant has occurred.” It seems to me the WOT follows this for the most part. And I can’t go anymore into that without getting spoilery, so I’ll save the rest for a later date.
Nice job. Good, perceptive analysis. Keep an eye on the different forms of prophecy that turn up during the series. Expect to encounter a few that should engender some good philosophical discussion on free will and how prophecy intersects with it. Min’s info dump are a substantial chunk, with fertile grounds for discussion regarding what they may mean as we move forward. There will be others – and you may be right with your perceptive comment that Moraine’s search may be reliant on some sort of prophecy. I’d recommend not googling WoT prophecies, as there are extensive web resources that will spoil the entire series if you are not careful.
Also, nice summary of the original Dragonmount prologue. As things proceed in the story, it might be a good idea to revisit it at a later date to gain more insight.
Don’t forget there is a second prologue that was not part of the original book – Ravens. Someone had the idea to split EOTW in two to make it more accessible to teen readers, and added a new Prologue set in the Two Rivers several years prior to EOTW that adds some insights about the Duopotamians and the historical rise and fall of LTT. It may be worth sneaking it in when you have a future read that addresses general things rather than the normal chapter by chapter discussion.
“It makes me wonder if she has told Moiraine anything about what she sees around the companions, and if such clues might be useful to the Aes Sedai.”
I thought in the preceding chapters it was clear that Min told Rand that Moiraine asked her to view and “read” the whole Scooby gang. it should be safe to assume that Moiraine got a good download from Min and maybe also even safe to assume that she may well have a deeper insight into what some of the prophecies may mean compared to Rand, an untutored teenager.
Without going into too much detail, prophesy is a bit different in WoT because of the literal pattern that is being woven with the lives of the people. Each person’s life is woven into a larger tapestry. The cycle is recognizable during each similar age, but the specifics are not. And it can self correct, if necessary, in ways that will become apparent. What Min does is literally reading The Pattern and uses images. Other prophesies are spoken and you will learn more about where they can come from in this book. Some of my fondest memories of the time between books was trying to figure out how some of what Min saw was going to be fulfilled and if she was infallible. Mat’s “eye on a scale” is revisited again and again and was my favorite one.
On a personal note, I’m a reader from 1990, a usenet rasfwr-j community member (The Hoax, PARASHA, the Loy), FAQ devourer (I printed one out once and it was more than 100 pages), and I am constantly amazed how I continue to be entertained by this series. I can’t wait for my 10 year old to get a little older so I can read it again with him.
I’m really enjoying your analysis. Looking forward to the next installment.
Slight spoiler for EotW…
If Min told Moiriane her visions, then why did Moiriane not realize that Rand was the Dragon Reborn? Sword that is not a sword? Come on!
@12, Denial?
I’ll have to come back and read the comments in depth, but I really enjoy these posts and you are already pretty perceptive/on the right track about a lot of things :) You also talked about basically all of my favorite things :) I think prophecy can be a bit tough to do write in books/media. Especially because nobody is going to play it straight – of course there’s going to be some ‘twist’ (which has been done since the ancient times, of course. Even the ‘prophecies’ in Hebrew scripture don’t turn out the way anybody thinks they would, at least in Christian theology) and sometimes it’s to the point where it’s distracting. And I always can’t help but feel frustrated that (especially in stories where the prophecy is directly handed down) gods can’t just speak plainer, lol. I would say Lord of the Rings has the least amount of prophecy in it. Mandos might utter a few Dooms now and again, but they’re usually stuff like, ‘yeah, that Feanor asshole is going to come to a bad end’ which…isn’t that shocking ;) And sometimes they’re more like…consequences.
I still remember reading the prologue on the bus when I was a junior in high school. My German teacher had lent me the books and I just remember feeling so overwhelmed (in a good way) by being thrown into this world.
The poster looks great! that was a surprisingly good analysis of how prophecy works in Randland.
Kelsey – Geez, I just finished a post on the other thread complimenting you on how much you are picking up and then I read this most recent post. And you have outdone yourself. It is a terrific analysis of the Prologue and of WoT Prophecy, based on what you have read so far. Well done.
I will echo what RobM said – there is more to be unpacked from the Prologue – but not for the moment. It’s worth a revisit many books later. Also, RobM also correctly noted there will be many sources of Prophecy introduced in the coming story and you can have the same head-bending experience we all had figuring them out.
The only real problem with following this “Read” is that it’s making me insanely jealous — WoT is a fantastic (I didn’t say “perfect”) series and the first read is obviously the sweetest. I’m really looking forward to sharing your OMG moments as you encounter them.
Later on in the book series you will notice some unreliable narrators.
Also RJ made it pretty clear in early interviews that information that have travelled long in either time or space can be misinterpreted along the way and you shouldn’t trust everything you hear/read this would include some of the profecies.
@tomas
OMG, I totally have not seen this so far!! 20 years a fan, and it just dawned on me now when you mentione it
*brilliant*
You really are very perceptive. I didn’t pick up a fraction of the stuff you are picking up on your first exposure.
Having read and reread the series multiple times, I love seeing how things relate and interlink. Like what Min’s viewings mean, and how little offhand comments can actually foreshadow major events and turning points.
I’ve read EotW 7 times already and I’m still noticing things this time round that I’ve missed on previous reads. It’s both slightly aggravating and very pleasing that you’re picking up so much already.
It wasn’t until my 5th reading that I got the sword in the stone joke, and then only because I was telling a friend where I’d got to and realised what I was saying. But then, it also took me an age to work out the bloody hand and white hot iron…
Hello friends! I was crazy busy last week and didn’t have much time to get responses written but I just wanted to say thank you for all your compliments and engagement this week. Lots of interesting point made in the comments, and I think you all are right that I will want to come back to the prologue and the different dreams as prophecies again later in the read. Looking forward to tomorrow’s discussion! :-)
What strikes me most upon re-reading this series (which I do a lot) is just how far down the road RJ had this story planned. This isn’t spoilery, but some of the things Min sees around Mat don’t get explained for something like *10 more books*! Then, if you still remember that fairly small moment in book one you get an amazing ah-ha realization. There are lots of these moments when I’m just awe struck at the amazing amount of ground work he had laid before he even began writing.
As to prophecy and specifically the Prophecy of the Dragon, I believe it’s a slightly different prophecy with each turning of the Wheel. Legend becomes myth and even the myths have faded before the next turning of the Wheel. As we see Rand almost accidentally fulfill each part of the prophecy you really get an understanding of how RJ has incorporated the Ta’veren nature of our three protagonists.
Just wanted to drop in and say thank you! These are great post! I have recently started reading the series and I am greatly enjoying your perspective on the material. As I read the chapters you have, I go straight here to read your post. Please don’t stop and I can’t wait to catch up.
I remember when my friend convinced me to check out this series. I remember picking up that Rand could channel early on (I missed him healing Bella) but figured it out after the lightning bolt/sickness thing. Hard to believe book 7 had just come out back then. I’m actually going back through these on Audible, up to book 4 now. I think I only ever read through 11 cause I didn’t have the money to keep buying hardcovers. What I’m hoping for is that the TV show will give rise to the WoT MMO we so richly deserve.
Rereading the series, I’m struck by how utterly insufferable Nynaeve, Egwene, and Elayne become. I try to see the bigger picture, that they’re essentially pawns in the Amyrlin’s game, (I like Siuan a LOT) Anyone who’s so ludicrously arrogant and rude never really getting any major comeuppance kinda bugs me. I remember thinking Lan was the coolest as a teenager, but now that I’m older I just see him as kinda being a huge jerk. Seeing characters from a new perspective and realizing it’s me that’s changed is surreal.
@Lisamarie – “My German teacher” ?? you learned german language or are you from germany? (sorry if it’s a personal one, don’t have to answer. )
“It wasn’t until my 5th reading that I got the sword in the stone joke” umm, can someone help me catch up? And what does that have to do with Tar Valon map, and island, and magic and calling all the shots(@3)?
@23 – “I’m struck by how utterly insufferable Nynaeve, Egwene, and Elayne become. I try to see the bigger picture, that they’re essentially pawns in the Amyrlin’s game, (I like Siuan a LOT) Anyone who’s so ludicrously arrogant and rude never really getting any major comeuppance kinda bugs me. I remember thinking Lan was the coolest as a teenager, but now that I’m older I just see him as kinda being a huge jerk” – SPOILER ALERT !!! SPOILER ALERT!!!!
Wow I so agree with a lot here. About Lan (though still cool, but in the last couple of books he was too selfish a jerk and his hormons (sorry for the language) regarding Nynaeve were getting the better of him and he was a jerk with Rand, as he tried to see the bigger picture and Lan didn’t back him up. became to selfish for a king. But what can I do he’s still cool. I liked Siuan best (from the list of women characters. Nynaeve was great but to arrogant, Elaine was just arrogant and Egwene became cool since she started playing politics).
There are a number of times over the series that I want to do a Edna Mode on Lan’s angsty arse.
You are NOT the last Malkieri, there are tens of thousands of them whose aspirations and wishes you are IGNORING
Where in your King’s vow does it say you have to die in a lone kamikazi attack?
What the HECK are you thinking, Lan?
And yes, the Supergirls can be very annoying. They are all terminally arrogant and dismissive of anybody who disagrees with their ideas – especially if they are men. Nynaeve is also Hilarious in her lack of self awarness. Elaine sort of learns better – or at least tries better. Egwene, well it wasn’t her idea to make her Amyrlin.
Yes, I took five years of German (8th – 12th) as well as a few intro classes in 6th and 7th, and then also another semester in college :) I used to be halfway conversational (I never really got the hang of speaking/conversing on the fly but was a good reader/writer) but I remember very little. I did go to Germany for a few weeks and was able to get by though :)
That said, at this point in my life (nearly 15 years out of college) I have very little memory or vocabulary left. I’d like to try and teach myself again one day…
As for the map, if you google it, the images that show up look surprisingly like some female anatomy. Honestly, I can’t believe I never caught it before, lol.
Danke fuhr die Hilfe mit der LandKarte. Ich habe auch in Deutschland gelernt.
Oh, so the sword in the stone… You guys don’t really think that the authors had all that in mind now do you?
Min’s readings in pictures: I am reminded of the alethiometer in Pullman’s “His Dark Materials” series, aka, the golden compass. The ideas projected with a series of pictograms, highly subject to interpretation and only a few people can do the interpretation to truth or a prophesy. Child Lyra is a natural, needing no training or books. Sounds like young Min to me- Lyra is also a “tomboy” (do we have a new word for that? Free thinking girl?).
@21 ” just how far down the road RJ had this story planned.” I agree the hints from book one that show up are incredible, including Sanderson picking them up. The “notes” must be huge. I recall the same feeling as the Harry Potter story progressed,
I’m loving the discussion; I just finished a reread, but may have to start over.